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Old 01-03-2008, 11:48   #1 (permalink)
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A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed.
As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation.
They talked about so many things and various subjects.
When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said:
"I don't believe that God exists."


"Why do you say that?" asked the customer.
"Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn't exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people?
Would there be abandoned children?

If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain.
I can't imagine a loving God who would allow all of these things."


The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't want to start an argument.
The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop.

Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard.
He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber:
"You know what? Barbers do not exist."
"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber.
"I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!"
"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because
if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside."


"Ah, but barbers DO exist! That's what happens when people do not come to me."
"Exactly!" affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES exist!
That's what happens when people do not go to Him and don't look to Him for help.
That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."

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Old 01-03-2008, 11:53   #2 (permalink)
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Great analogy. Great post.

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Old 01-03-2008, 17:01   #3 (permalink)
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Good analogy but dont always work...

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Old 01-03-2008, 17:18   #4 (permalink)
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is it jus my eyes or is it 2 small i cnt read it

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Old 01-03-2008, 17:23   #5 (permalink)
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dumb ppl,always wantng proof!!

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Old 01-03-2008, 17:28   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Guji-Ji View Post
Good analogy but dont always work...
What do you mean?

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Old 01-03-2008, 17:29   #7 (permalink)
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dumb ppl,always wantng proof!!
showwie was making sur if it is me or not lol

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What do you mean?
It does work for all cases but what im tryna say is someone may turn to Islam and nothing may change like if they had cancer it would still be there but it would help spiritually.

So yea it works for everything but you can see it from a different angle if you get what i mean...

sorry if i made no sense.

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A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed.
As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation.
They talked about so many things and various subjects.
When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said:
"I don't believe that God exists."

"Why do you say that?" asked the customer.
"Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn't exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people?
Would there be abandoned children?
If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain.
I can't imagine a loving God who would allow all of these things."

The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't want to start an argument.
The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop.
Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard.
He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber:
"You know what? Barbers do not exist."
"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber.
"I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!"
"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because
if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside."

"Ah, but barbers DO exist! That's what happens when people do not come to me."
"Exactly!" affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES exist!
That's what happens when people do not go to Him and don't look to Him for help.
That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."

Thats better (:

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Originally Posted by Guji-Ji View Post
It does work for all cases but what im tryna say is someone may turn to Islam and nothing may change like if they had cancer it would still be there but it would help spiritually.

So yea it works for everything but you can see it from a different angle if you get what i mean...

sorry if i made no sense.
Yes your right this analogy alone would not suffice for everyone to prove this point. Of course we don't need analogies such as this to prove the existence of God, we have more important signs to prove His existence.

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Old 01-03-2008, 18:31   #12 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by CrazYt™ View Post
Yes your right this analogy alone would not suffice for everyone to prove this point. Of course we don't need analogies such as this to prove the existence of God, we have more important signs to prove His existence.
Originally Posted by Guji-Ji View Post
Good analogy but dont always work...
Your both right!

And Shaaz thanks for the enlarged text needed that!

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Old 01-03-2008, 18:33   #13 (permalink)
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wow the enlarged version made me actually read it

interesting story, i bet the barber was chuffed being compared to god

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Yes your right this analogy alone would not suffice for everyone to prove this point. Of course we don't need analogies such as this to prove the existence of God, we have more important signs to prove His existence.
Yea man. Personally if i was tryna prove God i would use a different way..

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Originally Posted by craaaaazyshaz View Post
A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed.
As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation.
They talked about so many things and various subjects.
When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said:
"I don't believe that God exists."

"Why do you say that?" asked the customer.
"Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn't exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people?
Would there be abandoned children?
If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain.
I can't imagine a loving God who would allow all of these things."

The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't want to start an argument.
The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop.
Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard.
He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber:
"You know what? Barbers do not exist."
"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber.
"I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!"
"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because
if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside."

"Ah, but barbers DO exist! That's what happens when people do not come to me."
"Exactly!" affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES exist!
That's what happens when people do not go to Him and don't look to Him for help.
That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."

Thats better (:
remind me to give u a rep.

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