Why Don't / Why Do you believe in God?

[DJ B4VVY]

Originally Posted by Scrooge acha? where? lets not look at countries who are 'sugar-coated' with the islamic label, just because they have muslims living there, islamic in the sense, the whole islamic ideology is in place... starting with the ruler, then with other aspects such as economic, social and so forth...

I can only think of one at the moment which is the Islamic Republic of Iran

[incredible]

I can assure you Iran is a very westernised country.

[DJ B4VVY]

Originally Posted by incredible I can assure you Iran is a very westernised country.

But then why is it called "The Islamic Republic of" and not just "Iran"?

[Scrooge]

Originally Posted by DJ B4VVY I can only think of one at the moment which is the Islamic Republic of Iran

like i said, they can be sugar coated with the islamic label, doesnt mean they are islamic.
u have the islamic republic of pakistan, look at that place, corrupt governments in power over nd over.

[DJ B4VVY]

Originally Posted by Scrooge like i said, they can be sugar coated with the islamic label, doesnt mean they are islamic. u have the islamic republic of pakistan, look at that place, corrupt governments in power over nd over.

It's a bit different in Iran though, like for example they aren't allowed to shoot videos for songs etc. even if the singer is from Iran.

[incredible]

Originally Posted by DJ B4VVY It's a bit different in Iran though, like for example they aren't allowed to shoot videos for songs etc. even if the singer is from Iran.

dunno bout that but what i know is that in Iran has become the leading cosmetic (plastic surgery) places in the world! Now this isn't very Islamic is it ? lol

some evidence:

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Wealthy Iranians embrace plastic surgery

Very Westernised i tell you

[LILMISSY]

omdz i read that artical the iranian men get plastic surgery done so do women why cnt people be happy the way god made them idiots

[suck-my-chitterjuice]

Originally Posted by Spider Pig Although one question I would like to ask people, or maybe two....... the universe is never ending right? how is that possible, its one thing I can't get my head around, how can something be never ending, but say if it did have an end, say it was just a huge box, whats outside that box? there must be something i.e. you can't just hit a brick wall and there not be anything behind it. also, if god was the first, who was there before him? did god just appear? how? and if something/someone created god, who created that something or someone.... and so on. those are questions that I cannot get my head around and I believe there cannot be an answer to those.

inasmuch as your consciousness has been defined by an aristotelian logic tempered by newtonian physics with a smattering of euclidian geometry, these questions cannot be answered.

particle physics may answer your questions. though i feel buddhism will probably do a better job.

Originally Posted by Maya I disagree. Religion doesn't cause conflict, people do!

loki's point was that religion is the single biggest cause of conflict in the world. looking at it in a causal relationship, from the effects side, every cause is an excuse, and as people use religion to start more wars than any other excuse, religion is the biggest cause of conflict in the world.

logic is a wonderful tool to abuse

Originally Posted by MiSs *yawns* Zanjeer. frankly speaking. no one gives a damn what you say/write. you have no power. you cant change people's faith by nit picking and twisting parts from your "ex" religion. good night.

no doubt - zanjeer, anybody can find negatives about something and focus and direct energies upon them, but that would be a poor debate, as this has been. islam, as with any religion, is open to interpretation - it always has been and always will be. and as much as you may enjoy debating with muslim people about their faith, if your choosing to ignore certain aspects of the faith to further your own argument, then you are presenting an unbalanced and frankly illogical argument, and as such, u lose. though i must admit, for the first 6 pages it was funny watching people get more and more exasperated with your arguments.

Originally Posted by incredible Zanjeer if you want to meet me n have a discussion we can have that..in a mosque , gudwara, temple wherever dude. Zanjeer what do you think of the fact that if a Sikh guy is wearing a turban and I by accident bump into him, and his turban drops off his head. he is allowed to kill me. Is that ok?

firstly, your 'information' is incorrect, to say the least. your use of said 'information' is almost LOL-inducing in its limp disguise as bait. it could also be said to be offensive, petty and frankly stupid. and finally, you got pwned by zanjeer if that's what he has reduced you to.

as for my own beliefs, I'd blow your minds, but a breeze would do..for i have seen the light. i'm still working on channeling the one true source though.

[incredible]

^i've already fallen alseep **yawns**

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why, not enough smileys for you?

aaww.

[Zero]

Originally Posted by incredible ^i've already fallen alseep **yawns**

I second that.

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i can see my opinions and character are already not liked by some. but just because that may be, will not stop me posting my thoughts. boredom might though.

[Zero]

Why would you make such an assumption and come to that conclusion?

[suck-my-chitterjuice]

because i know myself well enough to know when, where, and who by i'm manifesting my own destiny. and the destiny i have chosen for myself is not an easy one.

[incredible]

oh ffs stop chatting fckin sh1te. ^^^ lmfao what a loser.