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"Hey there. Was just wondering if anyone knows the proper ruling on weather you can name your child a non arabic name? Or a name that isn't an Islamic name...."
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Old 27-01-2009, 20:36   #1 (permalink)
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Hey there.

Was just wondering if anyone knows the proper ruling on weather you can name your child a non arabic name? Or a name that isn't an Islamic name.

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Old 27-01-2009, 20:44   #2 (permalink)
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I've heard that there isn't such a rule on naming kids.

Although you have to give the child a good name, not something like "bringer of cruelty" or "mosquito face" or something lol.

Many people don't have Islamic names...I don't have one my self...but obviously its better if the kid DOES have an Islamic name. Identity and all that jazz.
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Old 27-01-2009, 20:46   #3 (permalink)
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Meh, I know loads of bengalis with names like Happy, Sweety, Lucky, Bebbi (erm, baby?)...

They tend to have a proper muslim name on their birth certificate, but are called this other name by everyone, in an attempt to try to fool Westerners into thinking they're English I guess

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Old 27-01-2009, 20:47   #4 (permalink)
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I read somewhere that islam doesnt require us only to give our children arabic names..as its a universal religon..as long as it is a noble name. However there are certain guidelines that one must follow..which i cannt fully remember right now..but its something along the lines of those names which indicate shirk or are offensive.

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Old 27-01-2009, 21:00   #5 (permalink)
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Dante and Jubei.................
am sticking to that 2 names... ^_^

well my uncle his sons name is 'samual' and his daughters name is 'soniya'

so i guess....

i donnno alot of ppl now them days assume its written down as if u gotta give them the islamic name....

ill give my kids an islamic name but only as there 2nd name...

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Old 27-01-2009, 21:08   #6 (permalink)
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I looked it up on Islam QA, and they give a whole load of rules are stuff..

and one second they say its forbidden to give a foriegn name, and a few lines later its makrooh..

'[It is forbidden] Using foreign names, such as Turkish, Persian, Berber, etc. names, that have no origin in the Arabic language.'

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It is makrooh to use foreign names that belong only to the kuffaar.
The proud Muslim who is content with his religion will avoid this and not come anywhere near it. The temptation to use these names is very strong in our time, and a Muslim might pick up any name from Europe and America. This is the worst type of sin and a sign of humiliation and defeat. If this imitation of the kuffaar and using their names is merely the matter of whims and stupidity, it is nevertheless a major sin; if it is done because one actually believes these names are better than Muslim names, then this is a devastating blow to the foundation of faith. In either case, the person who has done this must hasten to repent, and changing the name is a condition of repentance'


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Old 27-01-2009, 21:13   #7 (permalink)
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damn guess that spoils my chose of names...
well whatever the case i guess i can always use the westen name as the 2nd name (nicknamed)

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Old 27-01-2009, 21:17   #8 (permalink)
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I just looked at another question on the site though.. and it completly contradicts it.

Let me find it again.

'Can you please let me know if the name lara is an islamic name and what is its meaning.I have seen this name in one islamic name book.


Praise be to Allaah.
We could not find this name or its derivation in sources on the Arabic language. It seems that it comes from another language.
Based on that, it should not be used unless the meaning is known. If it does not have any bad meaning that goes against Islam or good morals, such as the name of a god or a permissive meaning that promotes evil, or self-praise, then there is nothing wrong with using it.
It is better to give one's sons and daughters good names whose meanings are known. '

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Old 08-02-2009, 06:30   #9 (permalink)
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yes many time even in pakistan Nwfp areas people assign name non arabic like samundar khan etc.
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Old 08-02-2009, 13:21   #10 (permalink)
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I don't know what the ruling is, maybe someone more aware can tell us... I'ma ask sum1 next week if I remember...

I always liked the name Janvi for a girl, but is a Hindu name......

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Yeh, I've liked Kiran as a name...it means MoonRay or MoonShine I think.

LOL the elders would frown upon it...
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Call her "Fanny." That's what Americans have named their children Fanny Adams
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From my understanding your allowed to name your kid whatever you want as long as it has a good meaning and the origin of the name isn't something which contradicts with Islamic Teachings e.g. the meaning is not an attribute of God.

It doesn't matter which culture/language its from but I think its common sense not to name your kid a biblical name i.e. the prophets mentioned in the bible. For example a lot of South Americans and Latins name their kid Jesus which is a distorted version of the name Isa. So its kind of common sense not to name your kid that.

God knows, I've named my kids after animals and insects. Isnt that right kids...

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Thero, I know a pakistani girl named kiran... but she has a fit if anyone pronounces her name "kirren"...it has to be pronounced "kir-ANNE" o_o

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