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    There's no way that I'm saying there wasn't love between Muhammed and Aisha...
    but that must've been after she did a bit of growing up.
    How does a child even begin to understand the concept of romantic love?

    ..and again, I'm saying this based on what I've heard, not what I've read up on...
    But, wasn't it Aisha who Muhammed chose to spend the majority of his nights with?

    Without sounding offensive, I feel that there's an element of lust in there somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rab C Nesbit View Post
    I'd understand if she had no family, or if her father didn't have the means to support her and raise her up...
    I'd understand if she was 9, when Muhammed spoke to Abu Bakr about her...
    I'd understand if it was something that he *had* to do, as in, if it was ordered by God.

    Yes, I know that back in those days they did have child marriages.
    They also had very wealthy men marry child brides.

    But Muhammed was neither a child (for it to be a child marriage), nor from a wealthy family.
    So, I can't see the purpose of the marriage.

    ...now here's where I'm not speaking from facts, and I'm basing my opinions on hearsay.
    I've been told by a few people, when they've told me this story, that Abu Bakr actually didn't want to give up Aisha.

    Had he been the one to go to Muhammed, and offer his daughter (as most fathers did at that time, and probably still do) to Muhammed, I'd also understand that.
    But, he didn't.

    It's very hard for me to get my head around it.
    You do realise its not enough basing your opinion on hear'say? lol.

    You're saying you cant see the purpose of the marriage. This is teh exact mistake many people do these days. They analyse things in respect to themselves. Analysis should be made in respect to what was ordained. That leads to conflicting ideas, and eventually, innovation.

    Note: This isn't attacking you, but I'm using this as an example.
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    I'm typing this from a book I got called 'The Prophet of Islam: The Ideal Husband' by Syed Abu Zafar Zain:

    'As regard 'Ayesha, she was 6 when he married her although Rukhsati took place three years later. How could he marry such a young girl for love? The question however arises: why then did he choose her for marriage?

    To us it seems, with his prophetic eyes he must have seen the the potentialities of 'Ayesha in the work of spreading Islam. He must have realised that if 'Ayesha were to marry someone else, her abilities wold not be put to the best advantage of Islam; she had natural instints which must get the best of training, of course from him.

    Time proved that he was right in his estimate. 'Ayesha easily came to be the most erudite, of the profoundest knowledge, of the maturest brian. In fact, no better women-jurist than her has been produced by the world before or after. She discussed and even differed, if necassary, with opinions of such stalwart Companions as 'Umar, 'Uthman, etc, and they ever acknowledged her superiority. As a historian and as an orator she had few paralells. She was present in the Battle of Uhud and herself led an army in the Battle of Jamal. She has left the largest number of Hadith, 2210 in all'.

    I'm sure there's many more reasons but this is a concise book about different stuff regarding the Prophet's married life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rab C Nesbit View Post
    There's no way that I'm saying there wasn't love between Muhammed and Aisha...
    but that must've been after she did a bit of growing up.
    How does a child even begin to understand the concept of romantic love?

    ..and again, I'm saying this based on what I've heard, not what I've read up on...
    But, wasn't it Aisha who Muhammed chose to spend the majority of his nights with?

    Without sounding offensive, I feel that there's an element of lust in there somewhere.
    If it was about lust he could have had any woman in Arabia young or old. The Arabs offered him money and women for him to stop preaching Islam but he refused. If he really wanted a young girl for lust(naoozubillah) than he had easier ways to get it. Furthermore the culture at the time never put a limit on how many wives they could have so he could have got as many as possible.


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    Cipher, I know.
    Which is why I said, I'm basing it on hearsay, and I've got some books coming my way from a few different people so that I can read up on it properly, myself.

    The books I've read, are jsut about the life of the Prophet, not about his marriages in detail.

    But still, I'm going with gut feeling on this.
    ...and gut feeling doesn't like this part of Muhammed's Story.
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    Gud gud...I'm not saying much...cos I don't know much about it anyway. But they do say things in Islam happen for a reason. Us humans might not be able to comprehend why, but with the right book and a bit of patience....I dare'say things would start to piece together...

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    The Qur'aan has many verses that can make one feel uneasy about killing unbelievers and being harsh with them etc etc however if you look at it all in context you'll understand that it is nowehere as blood thirsty as it sounds. In the same way it may sound eww but as Zero said after deep thought things can make sense.

    I'll be first to admit I felt uneasy when I heard it too but all the reasons I've got make sense and the fact she took Islam forward in leaps show why she was such an important figure.


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    Guji Ji, I know.
    I starting reading the translation of the Quran last month.
    Surah 47 is something that I'm going to have to ask about.

    Since I've started learning about religion on my own, I've learnt a lot of stuff that I didn't ever want to know about.
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    hmmm Very intresting. Remeber some of the sources wiki may not be the most reliable. I would however like to know more about this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rab C Nesbit View Post
    Guji Ji, I know.
    I starting reading the translation of the Quran last month.
    Surah 47 is something that I'm going to have to ask about.

    Since I've started learning about religion on my own, I've learnt a lot of stuff that I didn't ever want to know about.
    Bad as it is... thats proberly one of the reasons why i keep putting of reading the translation i'll do it one day but not just now...


    hmm some interesting replies and thanks for that guji its all making sense now


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    Quote Originally Posted by Guji-Ji View Post
    There were different reasons for each of his wives. Don't know much about them all but for example he married Safiya RA, I think it was because Allah told him too after she divorced Zaid RA(i think). Another reason I remember for marrying Aisha RA was the fact that the women of Medina at the time couldn't come to the Prophet pbuh himself as they were shy to ask him certain things so it was easier to go to Aisha.

    The Prophet pbuh died in Aisha's arms... I mean of all the people he had in his life it was Aisha RA who had that last moment with him.... says something.

    How did The Prophet pbuh die?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rab C Nesbit View Post
    Cipher, I know.
    Which is why I said, I'm basing it on hearsay, and I've got some books coming my way from a few different people so that I can read up on it properly, myself.

    The books I've read, are jsut about the life of the Prophet, not about his marriages in detail.

    But still, I'm going with gut feeling on this.
    ...and gut feeling doesn't like this part of Muhammed's Story.

    You're within your right to have your own opinions, and am sure you're strong enough to not let anyone feel you have to let go of them
    Sometimes the best thing to say is nothing at all.

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    i wouldnt take wikipedia as a source of islamic knowledge. best thing is to speak to an imaam/scholar, or try some islamic bookshops.

    as for some people who are saying muhammed, should follow it up by sayin PBUH, he is the best of mankind and of high status.

    back to the topic, times back then were very different, society and cultures were different, just coz we live in a society that says marriage is allowed after the age of 16, does not mean that it has been the case all the time.

    btw, if u can not defend the prophet pbuh when non muslims are calling him 'paedophile', 'womaniser', 'terrorist', then u need to take a serious look at yourself, coz as muslims the love we should have for the prophet pbuh is more than the love we have for our own parents.

    some people are saying they are disgusted and find it inappropriate and dont like it, well they should try seeking the knowledge instead of making assumptions.

    lets not forget aisha ra is the mother of believers, she was a scholar, (i think 2nd most learned woman in islam), she is mentioned in the quran, she holds a very high status within islam. there is a debate taking place, with the release of the novel 'jewel of medina' where the author has highlighted some of the points raised in this thread and reffering to the bedoroom acivities of the prophet pbuh and aisha ra, astagfrullah. these people who make theses assumptions need to be set straight and a discussions need to be raised, to tackle the assumptions, the only way that will happen is if the muslim themself is clued up on islam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rab C Nesbit View Post
    Guji Ji, I know.
    I starting reading the translation of the Quran last month.
    Surah 47 is something that I'm going to have to ask about.

    Since I've started learning about religion on my own, I've learnt a lot of stuff that I didn't ever want to know about.

    like?..............
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