War in Pakistan

**Scrooge** · 01-11-2009, 16:02

A year on from Obama's election and his 'change' policy is taking full effect. From his election campaign speech on 're-directing all efforts on the new front on the war on terror', over 160,000 troops are in Afghanistan and along the border with Pakistan.

Drone attacks carried out on the civillians of SWAT and Waziristan.

How surprising

in the last few months, bombs and suicide killings are taking place and every time a US politician is in Pakistan, bombs go off, coincidence? last week being Hilary Clinton and week before John Biden.

Furthermore, the Pakistan Army has launched its offensive on South Waziristan on the Pakistan 'Taliban'.

On top of that, Blackwater and Dynacorp (American private army) are let loose in Pakistan, mainly Islamabad and Peshawar. Suprise suprise, the biggest death count of a bomb in Pakistan in the last few weeks was in Peshawar.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtP9Y4igY58]YouTube - Black Water in Pakistan Time to Wake Up[/ame]

These are the 'contractors' behind the bombings and killings.

Why is Mr 100% Zardari allowing this to happen? Why is he denying blackwater ops are taking place on Pakistani soil even though their is more than enough evidence to suggest they are?

Why is there so much focus on Pakistan and why is America keen to pummel it to the ground, with the current Pakistan government aiding it all?

We remember how change came about in Iraq, Pakistan heading for the same change.

Discuss...

**Spider Pig** · 01-11-2009, 16:18

Isn't there a big meeting between Pakistan, India, Russia and China? something to do with the dollar and debt that USA owe.

**Zero** · 01-11-2009, 16:29

Good Thread.

Gilani officially stated that Pakistan said they're waging war and I quote; "We are at war".

There was a car bomb that rocked Peshawar awhile back. Taliban denied responsibility while government agencies said otherwise. Many women and children died in the way too brutal to even talk about.

Pakistan is at the brink of destruction. The Muslim state that is a nuclear power needs to be (and will be most probably) controlled by external entities. It's not in the West's agenda to let such an oppurtunity pass without a second look. You have some ill-informed people on here and all over the world too about the "extremists" in the NWF. Wake up you b*st*rds, why cannot you see what the country is doing to itself? Can't they see that barbarianism has not ended in the world? It's still there. Pakistan is the best example.

Every educated fool knows that one of the ways to bring a country to the ground is to cause chaos within and then coincidentally somehow a solution is offered to ease the situation.

There is no point discussing solutions to this. Because there is none. The only way Pakistan will get out of this situation is if #1: A leader rises with a capable economical mind and #2: If the government stops prostrating at someone else but God.

The western powers always have found people within people to do their dirty work. You saw it in Scotland. You saw it in Pakistan areas pre-British India Era, you saw it in Islamic Spain. You saw it with Iran when the Shah was around. Now you're seeing it here. Pakistan killing its own people for the sake of keeping others on par.

Now thats a poor state of affairs is it not.

**AngelofKlues** · 01-11-2009, 16:29

lol the USA wants to rule the world it just can't stop can it

**Scrooge** · 01-11-2009, 19:43

Spider - I havent come across that yet, but I do know that America is offering 7 billion 'aid' to Pakistan, in return Pakistan has to comply with American rules, a few examples is, America decides who runs the Army, any change of generals is finalised by America. The Pak education system is changed to what America wants the country to be educated with. Americans flying into Pakistan CANNOT be searched or asked for documents, funny that, last week, newspapers in Pakistan reported, 5 americans in a unmarked car (no registration) in Islamabad, were arrested, in the car, explosives and arms were found. What are 5 americans doing in Islamabad, with explosives nd arms? Later on they were released by CIA agents.

And no, this aint no conspiracy theory, its pretty open. Zero, external entities are already gaining control, do a search on 'Kerry-Luger Bill', this bill was done by America nd gives America the power to control Pakistan, through its puppets in Islamabad.

Zardari, was in Britain and America 2 days before the offensive in Waziristan was launched, he was given the green light to carry out the offensive.

Peeps would have to be pretty damn stupid, ignorant to the core, to actually think America is doing the right thing, ffs, its the same friggin tactics used in Iraq.

From the view iv been getting from reading Pak papers and through relatives back home, the people know Blackwater is operating in Pak and that Zardari has sold out BIG TIME. The journalists are on the case, even Imran Khan (cricketer) even with his love for democracy has come out and said America is the cause for all this.

AngelofKlues - America is nothing special. Dont have this mentality of them being 'untouchable', they are far from it. They are only bein allowd to do this, coz of Zardari and Gilani. America would get ripped up. Pakistan aint no joke of a military, its one of the biggest in the world and a nuclear superpower. If a SINCERE leader was in place, who looked after the people and not there bank balances, America wouldnt be in that region. The Army is just under a million strong, compared to Americas 160,000 troops, in a country which the Pak army knows a whole lot better then America.

Theres a lot of Hatred for America in Pakistan, which is a good thing, coz the moment a change comes about and a sincere leader is in place, watch America in that region crumble.

Another thing that gets on my nerves is, the Pak government tryin to silence the muslim groups in Pakistan from exposing the truth about America, blackwater and Zardari.

Ironic how people go mental about the Pak cricket team, but issues like this, they become deaf and dumb.

**Spider Pig** · 01-11-2009, 20:02

I read it somewhere but I can't remember the article link, if I find it I'll post it. It was a meeting where USA weren't invited on how to decrease the value and power of the dollar etc. so that USA will have less money to spend on military.

**Scrooge** · 05-11-2009, 13:13

Nation Newspaper has reported that 202 Blackwater Personnel have landed in Islamabad. No security checks were made. 200 personnel walking through untouched, wtf how much more blatant can it be.

202 Blackwater personnel arrive | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

Its amazing, how badly the Pak government is aiding its puppet rulers in the west and continuing to lie to the Pak public and world that Blackwater ops are not taking place, when there is more than substantial evidence, who are they trying to kid? Im glad the Pak public isnt fickle as our lot over here.

To show how badly the government has succumbed to America's aid is the arrests of group members, from Islamic groups such as, Hizb Ut Tahrir and lakshar-e-Taibi, who have been exposing the government and their external agents.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

**Scrooge** · 16-11-2009, 13:30

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTHYdwl9RIc&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - London Conference calls for Zardari to go and new leadership for Pakistan[/ame]