C&C Generals: Zero Hour - Rules

[Zero]

Posted here 'cause the clan-site is as dry as a Somalian's kneecap. It will be copied over for record keeping once I feel like it.

Okay, you guys know we've been experimenting with rules. I think the time has come to finally settle it once and for all. With an official thread. I remember Titan saying yesterday that bunkering is a legitimate strategy, since you do have to hold your base down. Even after I brought in the No Rules, it's still possible to bunker up LOL. And if you're GLA, all the better to BUNKER.

When we had a 2v1 with Rob yesterday, it was a NR-5min, and he didnt' even have nothing, whereas GLA has a MASSIVE advantage over USA and even CHINA. Since EA games dared to make GLA so powerful early game and even mid/late game, the choice was ours to choose what we could be; however random has become to norm with us lot. Vanilla USA and Vanilla CHINA don't stand a chance against any GLA faction. That means NR-5 and NR-0 = FAIL for any army apart from GLA, excluding CHINA NUKE. So then NR-5 is basically fail as well then. As Erazor said, either you do standard 10K or 50K. Don't do some BS in the middle with the 20K. Same goes for timing then. Either you have the game standard of NR-10 or NR-0(rush allowed). I'm sure this is echoed by the rest of us? Some of us are still n00bs at the game and these days we're doing NR-5/NR-10/NR-15 on and off; its quite confusing. I've seen another thread by Kayz with rule matchups but I think they're a bit imbalanced and obviously know one does that anymore. So I'm bumping his topic in effect, but with an update.

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So it comes to only three Rule matchups. "A" and "B":

Rule A

Basically rush allowed! No rules. Every single part of the game can be utilized. This includes: SW / Auroras / DB. Bunker at your peril.
This matchup is probably suited for the pr0's on TS. Or anyone else feeling zealous (me) to try and own someone on the sly with luck on your side lol.

*WITH THIS MATCHUP, YOU CAN CHOOSE YOUR ARMY UNLESS YOU WISH TO BE RANDOM*

STUDY SUGGESTS THAT THOSE WITH A STABLE MIND WILL MOST PROBABLY CHOOSE GLA OR CHINA INFANTRY

Rule B

Basically no-rush 10. Yeah, bunkering is probably going to happen. Fair enough. As much as I loathe it, if its NR 10, that means its going to happen whether you like it or not. Theres only so much you can do within 10 mins. If you see a line of defence, take out the power with Auroras/DemoAmbush/SW. Yes in this matchup, its exactly the same as Rule A (all units/buildings are allowed) BUT with NR-10.
*WITH THIS MATCHUP, YOU CAN ONLY CHOOSE RANDOM*

Rule C

Basically the same as Rule B (NR-10) but with NO DB/AUR/SW(apart from upgrades). This is probably going to be more of a standard since no overpowered units are used.

*WITH THIS MATCHUP, YOU CAN ONLY CHOOSE RANDOM*

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With ALL rule matchups, your unique unit IS ALLOWED in your opponents base at ANY TIME (obviously with NR-0, but even with NR-10 it SHOULD BE ALLOWED). So your Colonel Burton, Black Lotus & Jarmen kell can do some sneaking around. It's up to YOU to cover all sides of your base. This EXCLUDES workers; as they can tunnel up your nose and you're screwed.
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...and thats it! THREE RULES to remember. When in game lobby, saying/typing Rule "X" is sufficient enough for other players to understand what's allowed and what's not.

Please leave feedback in the form of a paragraph or two.

[shelim]

I like, explainsthijgs quite simply... Check you in about 5 hours

[Spider Pig]

lol

cnc rules = blatant fail


you will get someone typing 'a' someone typing 'b' etc. and then someone asking what does 'a' or 'b' mean again lol


I think I've been flopping cos the only time I play is when it's us and it doesn't really give me enough time to figure out the armies strengths and weaknesses against other armies s/w's etc. but I cba dedicating time to a game to learn it lol I will prevail some day!


there's more bunkerin in no rules than any other lol but I don't think you should be able to choose armies because then you will expect what the other person might do and also most ppl will choose gla and the better players will rape your anus with them

[MojoJojo]

bruva google pro rules in C&C zero hour. Done.

[DJ B4VVY]

Erm my CnC doesn't work anymore, my whole computer goes on meltdown everytime I play it and I don't know why!

[Spider Pig]

because your computer can't handle the truth

[Iroquois Pliskin]

Posted here 'cause the clan-site is as dry as a Somalian's kneecap. It will be copied over for record keeping once I feel like it.

Okay, you guys know we've been experimenting with rules. I think the time has come to finally settle it once and for all. With an official thread. I remember Titan saying yesterday that bunkering is a legitimate strategy, since you do have to hold your base down. Even after I brought in the No Rules, it's still possible to bunker up LOL. And if you're GLA, all the better to BUNKER.

When we had a 2v1 with Rob yesterday, it was a NR-5min, and he didnt' even have nothing, whereas GLA has a MASSIVE advantage over USA and even CHINA. Since EA games dared to make GLA so powerful early game and even mid/late game, the choice was ours to choose what we could be; however random has become to norm with us lot. Vanilla USA and Vanilla CHINA don't stand a chance against any GLA faction. That means NR-5 and NR-0 = FAIL for any army apart from GLA, excluding CHINA NUKE. So then NR-5 is basically fail as well then. As Erazor said, either you do standard 10K or 50K. Don't do some BS in the middle with the 20K. Same goes for timing then. Either you have the game standard of NR-10 or NR-0(rush allowed). I'm sure this is echoed by the rest of us? Some of us are still n00bs at the game and these days we're doing NR-5/NR-10/NR-15 on and off; its quite confusing. I've seen another thread by Kayz with rule matchups but I think they're a bit imbalanced and obviously know one does that anymore. So I'm bumping his topic in effect, but with an update.

---------------------------------------------------------

So it comes to only three Rule matchups. "A" and "B":

Rule A

Basically rush allowed! No rules. Every single part of the game can be utilized. This includes: SW / Auroras / DB. Bunker at your peril.
This matchup is probably suited for the pr0's on TS. Or anyone else feeling zealous (me) to try and own someone on the sly with luck on your side lol.

*WITH THIS MATCHUP, YOU CAN CHOOSE YOUR ARMY UNLESS YOU WISH TO BE RANDOM*

STUDY SUGGESTS THAT THOSE WITH A STABLE MIND WILL MOST PROBABLY CHOOSE GLA OR CHINA INFANTRY

Everything allowed doesn't mean you can Scud Bug next man until he rage quits/cries/kills himself or herself/ uninstalls/ shuts the pc down and disembles every part and sells it on ebay etc.

Rule B

Basically no-rush 10. Yeah, bunkering is probably going to happen. Fair enough. As much as I loathe it, if its NR 10, that means its going to happen whether you like it or not. Theres only so much you can do within 10 mins. If you see a line of defence, take out the power with Auroras/DemoAmbush/SW. Yes in this matchup, its exactly the same as Rule A (all units/buildings are allowed) BUT with NR-10.
*WITH THIS MATCHUP, YOU CAN ONLY CHOOSE RANDOM*

If at any point a player on any team gets the spooks like his/her ass hairs are standin on end and bunkers up. You can use SW on him/her. Same shit applies. No Scud Bug.

Rule C

Basically the same as Rule B (NR-10) but with NO DB/AUR/SW(apart from upgrades). This is probably going to be more of a standard since no overpowered units are used.

*WITH THIS MATCHUP, YOU CAN ONLY CHOOSE RANDOM*

I should say SW is allowed here too if any player decides bunker up like they're makin an israeli wall that disconnects them from palestine.

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With ALL rule matchups, your unique unit IS ALLOWED in your opponents base at ANY TIME (obviously with NR-0, but even with NR-10 it SHOULD BE ALLOWED). So your Colonel Burton, Black Lotus & Jarmen kell can do some sneaking around. It's up to YOU to cover all sides of your base. This EXCLUDES workers; as they can tunnel up your nose and you're screwed.
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...and thats it! THREE RULES to remember. When in game lobby, saying/typing Rule "X" is sufficient enough for other players to understand what's allowed and what's not.

Please leave feedback in the form of a paragraph or two.

My feedback is within your initial post.

[Iroquois Pliskin]

bruva google pro rules in C&C zero hour. Done.

Pro Rules isn't that bad. A limit on hummers and buses is basically the only bit people emphasise before a game.

"Pro" Rules - Has different meaning to different people. Almost pointless to say this, as you still need to define individual rules so everyone agrees. Must be included in the title of a game, or noted before the match is accepted and begins by the game's creator. They outline the rules that are deemed necessary for a fair and fun game by restricting units and structures that are seen as too easily relied upon as a "one hit" unit, or a unit that a player could build exclusively to achieve victory rather than utilizing multiple unit types to win.

Wikia Gaming.

[Iroquois Pliskin]

Another version of ''Pro Rules'' from this geezer.

Pro Rules Are:


• Super weapon general doesn't get to make Alpha Auroras, but they get to build ONE particle cannon.

• All USA generals don't get to make Auroras.

• Demo general can't make any demo bikes for combat. (Demo upgrade is allowed)

• All players can't build super weapons, except if your Super weapon general then you get one particle cannon. If you are a China faction you may build a nuclear missile and then proceed to purchase your upgrades. (China Nuke cant upgrade nuke migs) After the upgrade process has been complete that player must sell their nuclear missile without using it.

• There are no limits on how many units of a certain kind you may build if the unit is allowed in game play. (This means no Bus or Humvee limits, etc.)

• No glitching of any kind, like USA factions supply drop exploit, or scud bugging etc.

Tried and tested from most players. Should we try this too?

[Zero]

Thats a point to note. The USA supply drop exploit. Should we ban that?

[Iroquois Pliskin]

Its become 2nd nature to Vash. He won't abide by the supply drop rule in his life.

[Ritz_Crackers]

Damn fucking right I won't!

[Spider Pig]

I still aint clocked that supply drop malarky lol

[Zero]

To be fair, it's an exploit. That means in a game where exploits are allowed, scud bug should be allowed to? Right?

[Iroquois Pliskin]

There is a HUGE line between a scud bug and supply drop exploit. Don't get confused by sayin its all just the same. Think about it.