Originally Posted by
Tariq2009
What makes it incredibly humourous is that you are not a Muslim
I don't need a supremacist, segregative identity like you do. The difference between me and most Muslims is I dont claim certainty for what I can't prove. Many Muslims have that smugness(as do atheists)of claiming certitude. What makes your religion the beacon of truth & morality ?
Hmm, I think it was Malcolm X who once said, "A man who stands for nothing, will fall for anything".
As it is also blatantly shown by your comments. Not only do I find your posts offensive,
Are you beliefs so fragile, that you get so easily offended and so defensive ?
No one has got 'easily' offended. There is a line and you don't cross it. That applies to any subject whether it be religion or not.
posting your sly dig's at Islam
You've taken a selected few posts of mine to back your argument. However anyone who looks at all my posts would notice i'm vehemently anti-religionist and find all Religions equally preposterous, yet you pull out the 'Islam Card' to get the rest of the forum on your side using the sentiment of religious affiliation.
what exactly is the cause of your detest towards the religion you so bitterly hate and what goals do you have for other Muslim users of this forum.
I have no problem with people having their own Religious Beliefs. as the saying goes 'religion is like a shoe, find one that fits you if you want, just dont make other people wear it'. However the reality is far different and it becomes an issue for everyone when people like yourself endlessly evangelise and proseltyse.
But you do have a problem with it and your multiple posts about Islam illustrate that.
People who don't have a religion and do not agree with Islam's teachings, such as Bav (DJ B4VVY) do not make a spectacle in ripping another religion.
lol is this coming from the same person that patronised me for not being a Muslim ? Let's get one thing straight, nobody bashes other Religons more then some Muslims do. Mr Zakir Naik continuosulsy bashes others Religions to the sound of rapturous audience applause & laughter. Mr Sudays has on record bashed Christians as Cross Worshippers as well as proliferating Anti-Semitic views. That's 2 of the most famous Muslim figureheads in the world, yet you and many other hypocritical Muslims conveniently forget that fact when they pull out the 'Islamaphobia' card.
What I find humorous is most people are born into their religion by chance and parentage yet they act like it's a talent they have been given or a personal accomplishment. It's not like you sent a memo to your mums brain saying ' hey mum hey mum start reading the quran & make sure you land at Jeddah Airport before you give birth to me !. If you was born a Christian you'd dismiss Islam and all other Religions as Bullshit. It's all random chance, if you were born in China you'd most probably be born a Buddhist, India - Hindu, Saudi - Sunni Muslim, Iran - Shiite Muslim Italy - Catholic Christian, US- Protestant Christian and so on.
Nearly everybody who affiliates themselves with an Organised Religion, does it because of Child indoctrination. Even those who convert to another religion it's because they have been given a filtered version a religion, Muslims who Proselytise like yourself only propagate and regurgitate it's good points, it's not presented in an impartial manner. If you present selected parts of a theory/ideology you can make any person or group look good. I could say to anyone that Dr. Shipman was a great man because he was a Doctor and healed people, yet unless you do research on him you won't know he was a serial killer.
But Islam has many good points Tariq and why shouldn't they be shared when someone raises the topic. I personally find it odd that non muslims focus on these "perceived" negative attributes.
By and large reverts to Islam study the deen meticulously before making such a life changing decision so to suggest they receive a "filtered version" of it is flawed.
To sum it up do you need religion to be righteous, humble, forgiving, and truthful? These are values that have no relation to religion, other than religion has adopted them as the correct way of thinking and acting to lure people in.
Our morals come from God. If you believe they are man made then surely you also believe that morality degenerates into whatever is approved by your society.
Here's another question for you. Muslims claim to be morally superior to others, yet if you look at the Home office figures of the Prison Population of Britain it shows that 11% of prisoners classify themselves as 'Muslims'. Yet only 4% of Uk's Population is Muslim, that's a disproportion of 2.75 to 1 of Muslims involved in Criminal Activity. Answer that one
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