The Pros and Cons of University Life

[True Story]

thanks for that link bav

financial management is possibly something i'd do....£7k

[oOPho3nixOo]

I lived out when I went Uni (prolly giving away my age now! lol) and the good thing was obviously your own space, freedom to do whatever you want, and freedom to chill with whoever you wanted! I made LOADS of friends and it was brilliant..

You also learn to experiment with cooking and meet so many people from all over the UK and do some random crazy shizzle you prolly wouldn't do with your local friends.

The downside was of course, when things went a bit pear shaped in between friends, it would effect everyone, and then make the whole living out thing experience turn slightly sour! Also deffo money issues. It's so expensive living out and not only that.. My uni used to charge 5pm per printing page n photocopying, which might sound like a minor thing, but trust me.. When you got all these journals and books to photocopy, the 5p's build up!! And it was like daylight robbery, because the Uni flipping used money to get new signs that bloody lit up with flashing texts and other fancy things!

So that's where our tuition fee money went

[Ritz_Crackers]

Originally Posted by oOPho3nixOo You also learn to experiment with cooking and meet so many people from all over the UK and do some random crazy shizzle you prolly wouldn't do with your local friends.

That's bollox.

You saying that if you live at home you can't do anything fun with your mates that you grew up with? You can't meet new people, and you can't learn to cook?

I did all that living at home. I did crazy shit with my mates, I learnt to cook at home, I met loads of random people, and not just from the Uk, from all over the world.

Dunno what kind of are you grew up in where you never met any new people, and I don't know what kind of boring mates you had, but that statement is just 100% wrong.

[Ritz_Crackers]

CrazyShaaz Has named most of the pros and cons which I consider to be in my case aswel. Other than specialist roles like becoming a doctor, lawyera degree is Essential I am going to focus on a more general use of a degree.

I have done a degree and have a good resume in terms of the jobs I have done. I will say this if you are considering going to Uni. DO IT.

And don't buy this crap of EXPERIENCE v DEGREE , this is all well n true. But when it comes down to it, if you have a degree and then you gain some experience at whatever level your chances of moving up is far greater.

This is total bullshit. I have been in the IT game for 10 years now. I never went to uni. I started working straight after leaving school. I started low in the IT industry at 1st Line Desktop Support. I can tell you for a fact that when it comes to a job, the employer (in the IT industry) will always take the person that has more "real life" hands on experience than someone with a degree.

When you have a degree you just know the theory side of things. When you have hands on experience you know how to do things practically. You may run into a problem which you don't know and you have to improvise to fix it, and in my experience people who have hands on experience are better at improvising.

Now lets say I do a computer related degree. I find a job in the industry I will still probably start at desktop support /1st line support. Qualifications IMO in the real world are just a waste of time, but it GETS you the Interview.

Granted it gets you the interview, but whats the point of getting the interview if you ain't gonna get the job. If you go up against a person who has even 6 months hands on experience, you most probably will not get the job.

Now I probs could have got the same job without a degree for example by doing an MCP (not a degree).

However this is when the degree comes into use! Now if I wanted from there move to management Level, I will need a degree. A degree is basically credentials, it proves you have an understanding of how Business’ works, ultimately you with it you would be aiming for IT Manager/Director or a consultant role. (Now this is an IT related example, same applies for other jobs.

Again this is total bullshit. You DON'T need a degree to get into management. Again I'll use myself as an example. As I said before I been working in the IT industry for 10 years now, yes I started low, but now I'm 26 years old and I'm a manager.

I manage the IT department. I manage nearly 50 people and 5 different sites. When I was working for Mitsubishi Corporation, I was in charge of 12 different sites across 2 continents.

You don't need a degree to get into management. Your age does not matter. I got all of my qualifications while I was working, and now I have 5 qualifications. I can guarantee you that if I was to go to an interview and I was up against someone who got a 1st class degree in an IT related course, I would get the job, simply because I have the qualifications and I have hands on experience.

I myself have not hired graduates and have gone for the person who does not have a degree because they have the essential experience.

Having a degree is only really asked for at Management level.

WRONG

But don't get me wrong people, I ain't saying that a degree is useless. It all depends on the field that you choose. As Incredible has said, if you wanna be a doctor, then yes you need a degree, if you wanna be a lawyer, then yes you need a degree.

[oOPho3nixOo]

Originally Posted by Ritz_Crackers That's bollox. You saying that if you live at home you can't do anything fun with your mates that you grew up with? You can't meet new people, and you can't learn to cook? I did all that living at home. I did crazy shit with my mates, I learnt to cook at home, I met loads of random people, and not just from the Uk, from all over the world. Dunno what kind of are you grew up in where you never met any new people, and I don't know what kind of boring mates you had, but that statement is just 100% wrong.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan I was just making a general statement!! Giving some pros of living out! Never said they couldn't be applied to someone living at home. Geez!

[Miss_Desi]

Originally Posted by Ritz_Crackers That's bollox. You saying that if you live at home you can't do anything fun with your mates that you grew up with? You can't meet new people, and you can't learn to cook? I did all that living at home. I did crazy shit with my mates, I learnt to cook at home, I met loads of random people, and not just from the Uk, from all over the world. Dunno what kind of are you grew up in where you never met any new people, and I don't know what kind of boring mates you had, but that statement is just 100% wrong.

You cant say its 100% wrong... everyone has their own perspective.
No need to get all personal now! She just shared some pros for living out..

[Ritz_Crackers]

I wasn't getting personal. I was stating my opinion.

And I thought her opinions were a bit wrong, thats all.

[Miss_Desi]

Actually you said they were 100% wrong.. which isnt really fair to say..
'cos they are her opinions.. and no opinion is 100% right or wrong..

[Shaz.]

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[mindstate]

the temptation of getting drunk...if you don't drink then that's a con...if u do then that's a pro i guess...

[Ritz_Crackers]

Originally Posted by craaaaazyshaz Shatup you fools! Less of the spam!!! Thanks. =]

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[mindstate]