Why do ppl blame the west for currupting kids?

[Predeta]

i noticed alot of ppl say children here get 'kharab'(urdu word ) They reckon they are led astray just cos there live here. But back home in Pakistan u pretty much have everthing going on that happens here. The boyfreind/girlfreind culture is evident in colleges and university back home.

The kids dont go out for 'dates' at night cos they may have curfews, but instead go mcdonalds/kfc/any other resteraunt for 'lunch' dates. Back home they also watch loads of Bollywood films(as some girls in the UK do to), and alot of these are full of adult relationships, which if anything encouraging girls to mingle wid the opposite sex.

Its also pretty easy to get hold of drugs &,alcohol if u go to the rite places. Pakistan has 5 million drug addicts, if it was such a gr8 place to bring up ur kids, why is this figure so high?

[Lucy]

for once i agree,they think coz we mix in with goray we must be bad!!!
my mate from karachi drinks,goes out clubbing the works,but them lot seem to think we're the bad 1s!!

[LuBz]

You get good and bad everywhere you go.. Jus depends who ur kids get involved wit. I don't think its anythin to do wit what country you're in.. What aloada crap! I had a cousin who was really bad here.. His dad sent him back home for a while and he jus came back worse than before. He'd got involved in the same stuff, if not worse over there.

It partly comes down to discipline in the family too.. Personally my mums kept me and bro well disciplined. I grew up wit whites who dis all kinds of crazy stuff but I never even thought about getting involved.. Because I knew better than that.

[mindstate]

the west has been the # 1 influence in corruption...

we all have a bit of corruption in us...only a small minority don't.....

but the way corrupted the kids in america....the same way...we are trying to copy them....

bcos in terms of media....america's media is watched by most of the world..their adverts their movies their music....

its all influences in behavious outside the USA.

[LuBz]

Huh.. You can't blame Amreeka for everythin =|

[mindstate]

ok.........all im sayin is do ur research...bcos if i say something ppl wont believe me...they'll call me a conspiracy theorist :s

[Zero]

Im not corrupted and Im in the west.

Shows theres always the minority of those who get corrupted. Those that do are weak-willed.

[Asian Princess 4u]

everyone wants to point there finger at the western countries

islamic extremist from asia bomb western countries
but everyone blames the western countries! whats with that!

[MR-BIG]

grow up dilbert

[Cheeky_Princess]

i got to agree with pakistan... ever1 thinks there angels back home...
n my cuzin told me summin i mean i new she was in a reltionship wiv sum1 else i no 2 over there... but like when i found out the like kissid.... all i said was " my lips are virgin and im frm the UK.. u guys are pakistanis and urs arnt!!!"
yeh i no it was just a kiss but still
and my god the stories my cuzin told me abt college guys and girls.. haha it made me laugh...

we may live amoung non muslims... but at least there non muslims rather then people who are just muslim by name like in pak or bck home

[sunhun]

its not the west that messed up the world. rather, its the spoiled, more free and powerful rich social structure, living in the west that fucked it all up

[Mr_Chauffeur]

well .. i dont agree wiv woteva u say bout back home that ppls get involved in relationship n drugs n stuff. well like someone else said there are good n bad peoples everywhere, jus bcoz u people born n bred here doen't mean that u compare urself to the peoples back home.

sori no offence but lots of our asian i would say pakistani/indian girls who born here wen they reach at the age of 16.. they start going out with guys, and wen they start goin to uni or college they involve in physical relationship, ....

i am not sayin that back home guy or girls dont do like dis. they probably do aswell.. but if u look at the percentage.. it is much higher here den back home.. and .. girls here do enjoy as much as they can , these girls change their boyfriends every 6 months or may b after some years.. until they reach at the age of 30ies..

when u reach at age of 30, den u think that u r not attractive to someone anymore, then u think of being settling down,

please dont compare yourself with girls from back home.. atleast they have got sharam or izzat in their eyes.. atleast they dont wear hijab to show or to keep their parents happy and outside they get involve in relationship with guys,, wot a bullshit..

i read this forum almost everyday .. but neva eva read or heard anyone says good bout back home..or peoples from back home.. wen u go out to do ur shoppin here u wil see lots of shop keeper r from back home and they give u respect and call u baji ( sister ) , they dont ask u for your phone no to chat and have some fun..

i know one girl who used to wear hijab and had a hindu boyfriend here in london,

do u listen to ur parents .. NO.
do u respect our asian culture which teach us how to respect elders.. No,

having relationship with different guy makes u feel proud,, For What?

girls back home dont make excuse to their parents that they gonna stay at their friends tonite,

i met a girl here i swear to god. the way she used to talk to me ... one second i thought i am wrong.. she is very nice and all the time she used to tell me that she is from a very shareef family and neva been out with anyone . and one day she confess infront of me that she had a hindu boyfriend too..
i was shocked .. i said y the hell u didnt tell me in the begining. but she had no answer. she was tyin to justify herself by sayin this .. its a normal to have a physical relationship or to have a boyfriend here . this is not pakistan..

I AM NOT SAYIN EVERY UK BORN GIRLS IS BAD OR GUYS R BAD..

but come on . be realistic..

back home girls doesnt show finger to their parents if they stop them to do anything silly.. they dont classified their parents as illetrate or unpar or backward,,,, they know how to respect them and keep them happy and do not go againt their wishes..

and most important.. they do know how to respect our religion.ISLAM. pray namaz.. n keep fasting...do cooking for their families,,

i m not very religious... i understand that women or girls should have rights, she has got right to go out .. see world .. learn something .. do her job .. n stuff

we always blame that white community is racist,, but to be very honest our pakistani families who are here for ages n girls n guys who born here ( not all of them but most of them ) r worst then english peoples. they dont like pakistan, they dont like someone from pakistan..

jus because u born here and get everything u want .. u get aazadi of what ever u do no one is here to stop u to doin this n that. even ur parents cant stop u even u r havin relationship. u ppls take advantage of this western culture ,,,

if ppls from back home r so bad or ugly or illetrate. unpar..or pervert or if pakistan is a shit place. den Y THE HELL U GO AND VISIT PAKISTAN... NO ONE IS FORCING U TO GO BACK N VISIT THERE.. cos u love cheap pakistani shoppin..thats y u go there, u ppls dont deserve to b called a british pakistani.. cos u dont have nothing which makes u british pakistani.. u r jus british n will be british..
dont bloody say u love pakistan and bla bla. i can see your posting here wot u think of pakistan n pakistani ppls. it doesnt suit from your mouth..
u r jus hypocite... nothing else....
u dont deserve to wear pakistani dress and eating pakistani food. u should i wud suggess wear english cloths where u can reveal your body .. and shud eat pork n ham..

for u eating pork n ham is haraam in islam but sleepin with guys is permitted .its not haraam. this is not islam.. even though as i said i m not a very much religious, i pray as much as i can , respect my elders regardless of their age, religion.. etc.. love my pakistani culture and ppls of pakistan.

i feel sorry for your parents .. who are so nice .. but they cant do anything to control u in a islamic way.. i am not sayin they have to force u .. No...they dont have control to show u or tell u that doesnt matter son or daughter u born here but end of the day u are a pakistani.. and a muslim

wen u go to look for a job .. and in the section of equal oppurtunities. y the hell u tick pakistani for ?.. if u think that pakistan and peoples of pakistan are so bad.. so backward..and pervert or they dont know nothing..

you go to uni to have a relationship. but girls or guys over their go to uni to learn or to do study, thats y they are more intelligent and educated then u...if u want prove u can see any guy frm pakistan . who came here 99% are well educated and got mater degree in their relevent fields.. DOESNT MATTER IF THEY CANT UNDERSTAND YOUR ACCENT OR IF THEY CANT SPK FLUENT ENGLISH LIKE U.. but they are more hard worker den u.

y do we listen here on telly or newspaper that asian parents r crying cos they dont have control of their childern,.. but thats not their fault.. if u go out and have sex with someone. your parents doent know . they dont give u permission to do so.

if u dont like pakistan or pakistani peoples if you think they r illetrate or unpar.. they dont know nothing, they r backward,, then u should start hate or kick out your parents first.. cos end of the day they are from pakistan. they been here for long time.. but they born back home..

sorry i get really pissed off wen some say anything about pakistan.. or about pakistani peoples, doesnt matter they are good or bad.. Alhamdu lilla i proud to b pakistani first den british.. where u can find moral, izzat, respect to their elders, commited to Allah n prophet, . how many of you read namaz everday, how many of you doin fasting in ramazan, 1 in 100,

cos u spk fluent enlish and u born here that mean u r superior.. Wot a cheap thinking. .. i m sure whoeva says these things bouts pakistan dis n dat or pakistani guys or girls r dis n that . u must need to grow up..learn some manners first. rather then spending time in bed or in a bar or club or high street with ur boyfriend or girlfried. try to read about islam n den pakistan.. i bet u will feel proud that u have got pakisani blood runin in ur body.

i m not against england or uk this is a nice county.. with more oppurtunities, but only english ppls have got these things. not any british pakistani who born here.. ( i mean most of them not all of them )

nothin else to say.. cos end of the day u r all hypocrite.. u dont mind if u sleep with a stranger , and next mornin or in couple of weeks /months/ or year he kick on ur A***S, u may b feel proud,

but if any guy from pakistan look at u on high street u called them freshie or desperate... pervert.... bla bla..

end of the day wen u get fed up with ur uk born boyfriends and enjoy enuff. den u dont mind to marry to someone from back home.. cos u know by heart the u will get true love and most important true respect which every women wish for, from them not someone from here..

i am not agianst all of u.. but dont like hypocite.. their are good n bad ppls everywhere .. here in uk . back home in pakistan.. and everywhere in the world.. so dont jus think cos u r from here so can say wot eva u want about pakistani or pakistani ppls..

sorry if someone get hurt.. i didnt mean that..

may allah bless u take u to the rite path..

Ameen..

[Guji-Ji]

^^Wow, cant believe i read all that...... You make some very good points, especially the ones about being proud to be Pakistani yet hating Pakistan. I see that a lot.

[soldierx]

Attention!

Comrade in life its sometimes easiar to blame others!

Than look closer to home first!

---X---

[-contempt-]

Originally Posted by Mr_Chauffeur well .. i dont agree wiv woteva u say bout back home that ppls get involved in relationship n drugs n stuff. well like someone else said there are good n bad peoples everywhere, jus bcoz u people born n bred here doen't mean that u compare urself to the peoples back home. sori no offence but lots of our asian i would say pakistani/indian girls who born here wen they reach at the age of 16.. they start going out with guys, and wen they start goin to uni or college they involve in physical relationship, .... i am not sayin that back home guy or girls dont do like dis. they probably do aswell.. but if u look at the percentage.. it is much higher here den back home.. and .. girls here do enjoy as much as they can , these girls change their boyfriends every 6 months or may b after some years.. until they reach at the age of 30ies.. when u reach at age of 30, den u think that u r not attractive to someone anymore, then u think of being settling down, please dont compare yourself with girls from back home.. atleast they have got sharam or izzat in their eyes.. atleast they dont wear hijab to show or to keep their parents happy and outside they get involve in relationship with guys,, wot a bullshit.. i read this forum almost everyday .. but neva eva read or heard anyone says good bout back home..or peoples from back home.. wen u go out to do ur shoppin here u wil see lots of shop keeper r from back home and they give u respect and call u baji ( sister ) , they dont ask u for your phone no to chat and have some fun.. i know one girl who used to wear hijab and had a hindu boyfriend here in london, do u listen to ur parents .. NO. do u respect our asian culture which teach us how to respect elders.. No, having relationship with different guy makes u feel proud,, For What? girls back home dont make excuse to their parents that they gonna stay at their friends tonite, i met a girl here i swear to god. the way she used to talk to me ... one second i thought i am wrong.. she is very nice and all the time she used to tell me that she is from a very shareef family and neva been out with anyone . and one day she confess infront of me that she had a hindu boyfriend too.. i was shocked .. i said y the hell u didnt tell me in the begining. but she had no answer. she was tyin to justify herself by sayin this .. its a normal to have a physical relationship or to have a boyfriend here . this is not pakistan.. I AM NOT SAYIN EVERY UK BORN GIRLS IS BAD OR GUYS R BAD.. but come on . be realistic.. back home girls doesnt show finger to their parents if they stop them to do anything silly.. they dont classified their parents as illetrate or unpar or backward,,,, they know how to respect them and keep them happy and do not go againt their wishes.. and most important.. they do know how to respect our religion.ISLAM. pray namaz.. n keep fasting...do cooking for their families,, i m not very religious... i understand that women or girls should have rights, she has got right to go out .. see world .. learn something .. do her job .. n stuff we always blame that white community is racist,, but to be very honest our pakistani families who are here for ages n girls n guys who born here ( not all of them but most of them ) r worst then english peoples. they dont like pakistan, they dont like someone from pakistan.. jus because u born here and get everything u want .. u get aazadi of what ever u do no one is here to stop u to doin this n that. even ur parents cant stop u even u r havin relationship. u ppls take advantage of this western culture ,,, if ppls from back home r so bad or ugly or illetrate. unpar..or pervert or if pakistan is a shit place. den Y THE HELL U GO AND VISIT PAKISTAN... NO ONE IS FORCING U TO GO BACK N VISIT THERE.. cos u love cheap pakistani shoppin..thats y u go there, u ppls dont deserve to b called a british pakistani.. cos u dont have nothing which makes u british pakistani.. u r jus british n will be british.. dont bloody say u love pakistan and bla bla. i can see your posting here wot u think of pakistan n pakistani ppls. it doesnt suit from your mouth.. u r jus hypocite... nothing else.... u dont deserve to wear pakistani dress and eating pakistani food. u should i wud suggess wear english cloths where u can reveal your body .. and shud eat pork n ham.. for u eating pork n ham is haraam in islam but sleepin with guys is permitted .its not haraam. this is not islam.. even though as i said i m not a very much religious, i pray as much as i can , respect my elders regardless of their age, religion.. etc.. love my pakistani culture and ppls of pakistan. i feel sorry for your parents .. who are so nice .. but they cant do anything to control u in a islamic way.. i am not sayin they have to force u .. No...they dont have control to show u or tell u that doesnt matter son or daughter u born here but end of the day u are a pakistani.. and a muslim wen u go to look for a job .. and in the section of equal oppurtunities. y the hell u tick pakistani for ?.. if u think that pakistan and peoples of pakistan are so bad.. so backward..and pervert or they dont know nothing.. you go to uni to have a relationship. but girls or guys over their go to uni to learn or to do study, thats y they are more intelligent and educated then u...if u want prove u can see any guy frm pakistan . who came here 99% are well educated and got mater degree in their relevent fields.. DOESNT MATTER IF THEY CANT UNDERSTAND YOUR ACCENT OR IF THEY CANT SPK FLUENT ENGLISH LIKE U.. but they are more hard worker den u. y do we listen here on telly or newspaper that asian parents r crying cos they dont have control of their childern,.. but thats not their fault.. if u go out and have sex with someone. your parents doent know . they dont give u permission to do so. if u dont like pakistan or pakistani peoples if you think they r illetrate or unpar.. they dont know nothing, they r backward,, then u should start hate or kick out your parents first.. cos end of the day they are from pakistan. they been here for long time.. but they born back home.. sorry i get really pissed off wen some say anything about pakistan.. or about pakistani peoples, doesnt matter they are good or bad.. Alhamdu lilla i proud to b pakistani first den british.. where u can find moral, izzat, respect to their elders, commited to Allah n prophet, . how many of you read namaz everday, how many of you doin fasting in ramazan, 1 in 100, cos u spk fluent enlish and u born here that mean u r superior.. Wot a cheap thinking. .. i m sure whoeva says these things bouts pakistan dis n dat or pakistani guys or girls r dis n that . u must need to grow up..learn some manners first. rather then spending time in bed or in a bar or club or high street with ur boyfriend or girlfried. try to read about islam n den pakistan.. i bet u will feel proud that u have got pakisani blood runin in ur body. i m not against england or uk this is a nice county.. with more oppurtunities, but only english ppls have got these things. not any british pakistani who born here.. ( i mean most of them not all of them ) nothin else to say.. cos end of the day u r all hypocrite.. u dont mind if u sleep with a stranger , and next mornin or in couple of weeks /months/ or year he kick on ur A***S, u may b feel proud, but if any guy from pakistan look at u on high street u called them freshie or desperate... pervert.... bla bla.. end of the day wen u get fed up with ur uk born boyfriends and enjoy enuff. den u dont mind to marry to someone from back home.. cos u know by heart the u will get true love and most important true respect which every women wish for, from them not someone from here.. i am not agianst all of u.. but dont like hypocite.. their are good n bad ppls everywhere .. here in uk . back home in pakistan.. and everywhere in the world.. so dont jus think cos u r from here so can say wot eva u want about pakistani or pakistani ppls.. sorry if someone get hurt.. i didnt mean that.. may allah bless u take u to the rite path.. Ameen..

LOL! Ok first of all learn to speak english.
second of all all that crap u just said half of it ain't true.
I was born and bread here I read namaaz 5 times a day and keep my rozeh Allhumdulillah all my family does too, however my cousins back home don't pray and they're more 'modern' than our families here I also respect my mum and dad and I don't go uni to have 'relationship' LOL 8) I only go uni cos my mum wants me to go.
You need to calm down and think with an open mind everything has it's flaws and so does pakistan and people from pakistan. It ain't perfect. Learn to accept criticism.